[Charlug] Dual boot and emulation?

Peter Senft peter at dusares.com
Fri Apr 4 18:25:51 CEST 2014


Garry,

yes you can. And it works actually with the Harmony now. *But* sometimes
that doesn't work because Windows is doing something too low level.

It is even worse with ethernet. For instance try flashing a firmware of
an older D-Link router with a virtualized Windows. It won't work.

Peter

On 04/04/2014 11:27 AM, Garry Butler wrote:
> Jason,
> 
> You can get USB to pass through straight to the VM so that the VM thinks
> it is natively connected without having to boot Windoze natively. Not
> trying to tell you how to setup your box, just trying to make sure
> you've explored all of the options. Although, they do make software for
> me to setup my Harmony remote on my Mac! :P
> 
> James,
> 
> That is one of my all time favorite XKCD's. While sitting at work
> talking about Linux on VM's reminds me of my absolute favorite.
> https://xkcd.com/356/
> 
> -Garry
> 
> 
> 
> -Garry
> 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:24 AM, James Loyd <jamestloyd at gmail.com
> <mailto:jamestloyd at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Maybe he wants to create this:
>     http://xkcd.com/350/
> 
>     On Apr 4, 2014 11:19 AM, "Garry Butler" <butler at gatech.edu
>     <mailto:butler at gatech.edu>> wrote:
> 
>         I tried that once a few years ago. It actually worked....sort
>         of. Honestly, it's more trouble than it's worth. With the
>         advances of VM's these days I think your best bet would be to
>         create a data partition and let VMware (or QEMU, etc) write the
>         virtual disk files to that partition and allow them to grow.
>         Granted you won't be able to boot the Windoze install natively,
>         but then again other than for software compatibility reasons,
>         why would you want to run Windoze at all?
> 
> 
> 
>         -Garry
> 
> 
>         On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Shay Walters
>         <ShayW at controlmanagement.com
>         <mailto:ShayW at controlmanagement.com>> wrote:
> 
>                 Yes, now that you mention it, it sure could be read that
>             way.  But
>             that wasn't the way it appeared to me until you mentioned
>             that.  Now I
>             can't see it as being anything else.  Kind of like one of
>             those optical
>             illusions that once you see the trick, you can't see the
>             illusion any
>             more.  :-)
>                 I suspect that if you were to run Windows both
>             dual-booted and
>             virtualized, booting the same Windows image from the HD in
>             both cases,
>             that there would be hardware/driver issues because of
>             differences between
>             the native hardware and the virtual machine.  You'd probably
>             get a BSOD on
>             the virtual machine, I think.
> 
>             -Shay
> 
> 
>             -----Original Message-----
>             From: Peter Senft <peter at dusares.com <mailto:peter at dusares.com>>
>             To: charlug at charlug.org <mailto:charlug at charlug.org>
>             Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2014 10:57:21 -0400
>             Subject: Re: [Charlug] Dual boot and emulation?
> 
>             > Shay,
>             >
>             > I think that Pierre actually was asking for both. He
>             wanted to be able
>             > to dual boot but also wanted to be able to use the raw
>             disk inside a
>             > VM.
>             > That's at leas how I read the "and" in his post :).
>             >
>             > Peter
>             >
> 
>             [....]
> 
>             > >
>             > >> Someone's asked me to help him set up a dual-boot
>             computer. Is it
>             > >> possible to
>             > >> set up a computer as dual-boot with Windows and run the
>             Windows
>             > >> installation
>             > >> in an emulator in Linux?
>             > >>
>             > >> Pierre
>             > >> --
>             > >> The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black
>             Mountain.
>             > >>
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