From bobevans19 at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 06:03:01 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Fri Dec 5 15:35:59 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Organization meeting for January, 2009 Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812060303r78400125sc9e0acf83b8255dd@mail.gmail.com> Here's the deal. I propose that we : Meet the 1st Saturday in January @ http://www.thecoffeegarden.net/index.html Agenda: 1. Lug Library 2. Guest speaker schedule, 2009 3. TBD -- = Thanks, Bob Evans Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog. - Doug Larson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081206/736ee999/att= achment.htm From meuon at geeklabs.com Sat Dec 6 08:54:27 2008 From: meuon at geeklabs.com (Mike Harrison) Date: Fri Dec 5 18:27:23 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Organization meeting for January, 2009 In-Reply-To: <7c5cd1190812060303r78400125sc9e0acf83b8255dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812060303r78400125sc9e0acf83b8255dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: > Here's the deal. > I propose that we : > Meet the 1st Saturday in January @ http://www.thecoffeegarden.net/index.html Unsolicited Advice: make it clear that it's an invitation and include: Who (anyone interested, just core team.. geeks that do PHP upside down) What (casual meeting, presentation.. business meeting.. LAN party) Why (2009 Kickoff.. Linus Torvalds is in town..) When (Including time) Where (including address, instructions) Note that some of us arcane Linux users can easily click on links in our text based web browsers.. And don't call me a nerd. I'm a geek, I get paid for it. :) Wish I could make it, I'm mosly just a lurker from Chattanooga that sometimes does a little work in Charlotte, but none lately. :( Which leads to the last suggestion: PLAIN TEXT. Because real e-mail is text, not CSS laden HTML in Verdana (is that on my Linux machine? Only if I installed the MSFT Core Fonts and other tweaks) and everyone will read plain text properly. Hope ya'll have a wonderful meeting. :) From jason at rampaginggeek.com Sat Dec 6 10:23:42 2008 From: jason at rampaginggeek.com (Jason Edgecombe) Date: Fri Dec 5 19:56:39 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Organization meeting for January, 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <7c5cd1190812060303r78400125sc9e0acf83b8255dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <493A98FE.6020109@rampaginggeek.com> Mike Harrison wrote: > > Why (2009 Kickoff.. Linus Torvalds is in town..) Linus will be in town? Are you serious? Jason From jason at rampaginggeek.com Sat Dec 6 10:32:22 2008 From: jason at rampaginggeek.com (Jason Edgecombe) Date: Fri Dec 5 20:05:17 2008 Subject: [Charlug] A joint Charlug/UNCCLUG meeting? Message-ID: <493A9B06.8080508@rampaginggeek.com> I know that the UNCCLUG emil list has been dead lately, but has anyone spoken with UNCCLUG about a possible joint meeting? UNC Charlotte does have meeting space and free restricted wireless (ports 80/443/pop/smtp), but you to register space, I believe you have to be a student group or an incorporated group. Some classrooms can hold 100 people and have data projectors and wireless. I'm just thinking of ideas on how and where to meet. Jason From rick at niof.net Sat Dec 6 10:48:22 2008 From: rick at niof.net (Rick Pasotto) Date: Fri Dec 5 20:21:20 2008 Subject: [Charlug] A joint Charlug/UNCCLUG meeting? In-Reply-To: <493A9B06.8080508@rampaginggeek.com> References: <493A9B06.8080508@rampaginggeek.com> Message-ID: <20081206154822.GB15573@niof.net> On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 10:32:22AM -0500, Jason Edgecombe wrote: > I know that the UNCCLUG emil list has been dead lately, but has anyone > spoken with UNCCLUG about a possible joint meeting? UNC Charlotte does > have meeting space and free restricted wireless (ports 80/443/pop/smtp), > but you to register space, I believe you have to be a student group or > an incorporated group. Some classrooms can hold 100 people and have data > projectors and wireless. > > I'm just thinking of ideas on how and where to meet. Would the parking be free? -- "If people like you they'll listen to you, but if they trust you they'll do business with you." -- Zig Zigler Rick Pasotto rick@niof.net http://www.niof.net From jason at rampaginggeek.com Sat Dec 6 12:02:12 2008 From: jason at rampaginggeek.com (Jason Edgecombe) Date: Fri Dec 5 21:35:07 2008 Subject: [Charlug] A joint Charlug/UNCCLUG meeting? In-Reply-To: <20081206154822.GB15573@niof.net> References: <493A9B06.8080508@rampaginggeek.com> <20081206154822.GB15573@niof.net> Message-ID: <493AB014.7000501@rampaginggeek.com> Rick Pasotto wrote: > On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 10:32:22AM -0500, Jason Edgecombe wrote: > >> I know that the UNCCLUG emil list has been dead lately, but has anyone >> spoken with UNCCLUG about a possible joint meeting? UNC Charlotte does >> have meeting space and free restricted wireless (ports 80/443/pop/smtp), >> but you to register space, I believe you have to be a student group or >> an incorporated group. Some classrooms can hold 100 people and have data >> projectors and wireless. >> >> I'm just thinking of ideas on how and where to meet. >> > > Would the parking be free? > > The following web pages suggests that it's free on the Friday evenings and the weekend, but I'm not sure: http://www.parking.uncc.edu/perpark.htm http://www.parking.uncc.edu/visapark.htm The on-campus gaming group has many non-student participants. They basically park in the visitor lots on Friday evenings and aren't charged. I suggest verifying this before planning the meeting though. Sincerely, Jason From bobevans19 at gmail.com Sat Dec 6 14:05:07 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Fri Dec 5 23:38:03 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Organization meeting for January, 2009 In-Reply-To: <3464E31D-4A51-45D7-87AA-422B986DB5A6@gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812060303r78400125sc9e0acf83b8255dd@mail.gmail.com> <3464E31D-4A51-45D7-87AA-422B986DB5A6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812061105h3ccaf1e5g4822174c3b1a0cbb@mail.gmail.com> Majority decision. The Coffee Garden has free wifi, parking, etc... And it is 3 blocks from the EvansMensShelter...(my house) On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Sean Hogston wrote: > Location is fine with me. What time? > > Sean > > > > On Dec 6, 2008, at 6:03, "Bob Evans" wrote: > > > > Here's the deal. > > > I propose that we : > > > Meet the 1st Saturday in January @ > > http://www.thecoffeegarden.net/index.html > > > Agenda: > > > 1. Lug Library > > > 2. Guest speaker schedule, 2009 > > > 3. TBD > > > -- > Thanks, > > Bob Evans > > Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, > including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog. > - Doug Larson > > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > -- = Thanks, Bob Evans Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog. - Doug Larson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081206/34b6bf19/att= achment.htm From phma at phma.optus.nu Sat Dec 6 23:17:12 2008 From: phma at phma.optus.nu (Pierre Abbat) Date: Sat Dec 6 08:50:06 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Organization meeting for January, 2009 In-Reply-To: <7c5cd1190812060303r78400125sc9e0acf83b8255dd@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812060303r78400125sc9e0acf83b8255dd@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812062317.12437.phma@phma.optus.nu> On Saturday 06 December 2008 06:03:01 Bob Evans wrote: > Here's the deal. > > > I propose that we : > > > Meet the 1st Saturday in January @ > http://www.thecoffeegarden.net/index.html I can't come, but I have no Tuesday classes next semester, so I will be able to attend the Tuesday night meetings. Whether Pat can host the meetings, I don't know. Pierre From meuon at geeklabs.com Sun Dec 7 03:10:28 2008 From: meuon at geeklabs.com (Mike Harrison) Date: Sat Dec 6 12:43:20 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Organization meeting for January, 2009 In-Reply-To: <493A98FE.6020109@rampaginggeek.com> References: <7c5cd1190812060303r78400125sc9e0acf83b8255dd@mail.gmail.com> <493A98FE.6020109@rampaginggeek.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Jason Edgecombe wrote: > Mike Harrison wrote: >> >> Why (2009 Kickoff.. Linus Torvalds is in town..) > > Linus will be in town? Are you serious? My apologies, those were merely suggested topic examples. Please stop drooling on the keyboard... it makes for soggy e-mail. From bobevans19 at gmail.com Sun Dec 7 05:00:25 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Sat Dec 6 14:33:16 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Announcement - planning session Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812070200l3bf1c4aja9adf58305945bd4@mail.gmail.com> Who : Any active CharLUG member What : 2009 Planning Session... Why : We should be planning events for 2009 When : 01.03.09 TBD ( Bob can be there from 9 - 12 ) Where : The Coffee Garden Stevens Mill Crossing 7900-L, Stevens Mill Road, Matthews, NC, 28104 (704) 882-8700 Hours for SAT: 7AM-6PM -- = Thanks, Bob Evans Home computers are being called upon to perform many new functions, including the consumption of homework formerly eaten by the dog. - Doug Larson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081207/b9685349/att= achment.htm From jason at rampaginggeek.com Sun Dec 7 10:33:51 2008 From: jason at rampaginggeek.com (Jason Edgecombe) Date: Sat Dec 6 20:06:41 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Organization meeting for January, 2009 In-Reply-To: References: <7c5cd1190812060303r78400125sc9e0acf83b8255dd@mail.gmail.com> <493A98FE.6020109@rampaginggeek.com> Message-ID: <493BECDF.3060004@rampaginggeek.com> Mike Harrison wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2008, Jason Edgecombe wrote: > >> Mike Harrison wrote: >>> >>> Why (2009 Kickoff.. Linus Torvalds is in town..) >> >> Linus will be in town? Are you serious? > > My apologies, those were merely suggested topic examples. > Please stop drooling on the keyboard... > it makes for soggy e-mail. bummer. thanks for the info. From bobevans19 at gmail.com Tue Dec 9 19:55:33 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Tue Dec 9 05:28:12 2008 Subject: [Charlug] =?windows-1252?q?Fwd=3A_UG_News--O=92Reilly_at_Macworl?= =?windows-1252?q?d_2009_in_San_Francisco?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812091655l27babf16s7dd5fae5bb023cc3@mail.gmail.com> FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marsee Henon Date: Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 4:39 PM Subject: UG News--O'Reilly at Macworld 2009 in San Francisco To: bobevans19@gmail.com Hi there Can you share this with your members if you think they might be interested? Marsee Join O'Reilly at Macworld, January 5-9 in San Francisco. Don't miss this chance to see your favorite O'Reilly authors and find our about our newest books, news, and other offerings at our booth (#2210). Presentations throughout the show include David Pogue, Deke McClelland, Lesa Snider King, Derrick Story, J.D. Biersdorfer, Mikkel Aaland, Nancy Duarte, David Sawyer McFarland, and Chris Grover. See the complete schedule online at http://oreilly.com/go/mw2009 Looking for more activities during Macword week? Look for these special "Ask the Experts" events: Book Passage in Corte Madera Sunday, January 4 @ 7:00 PM http://www.bookpassage.com/event_detailed.php?id=3D2110 Derrick Story, Mikkel Aaland, Lesa Snider King, and Deke McClelland San Francisco Apple Store 1 Stockton Street Thursday, January 8 @ 7:30 PM Derrick Story, Mikkel Aaland, Deke McClelland, and Ben Long http://www.apple.com/retail/sanfrancisco/ And we'll be at the Apple User Group Reception on Monday, January 5 at The Westin San Francisco on Market Street. 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I personally think CharLUG has enough speakers to fill out the rest of 2009 from within our ranks. Think about it. Let us all know if you are interested in speaking during an '09 meeting. *Meeting location(s)* I propose holding the meetings in different locations each time we meet. Tying ourselves to one location immediately reduces the number of attendees. Things like bus routes, time of day, and ride sharing should be discussed on 01/03. I tell my customers that GNU/Linux, and for that matter, Open Software in general, has moved beyond the "experts only" stage. We ought to be as dynamic as the software we use. Let's get some good meetings going in 2009... Hope to see everyone at the01/03/09 meeting.. -- = Thanks, Bob Evans carolinux.blogspot.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081212/e304bb17/att= achment.htm From leam at reuel.net Fri Dec 12 06:06:21 2008 From: leam at reuel.net (Leam Hall) Date: Thu Dec 11 15:40:03 2008 Subject: [Charlug] CharLUG - 2009 organizational meeting...01/03/09 In-Reply-To: <7c5cd1190812120226t6c2d8b7fwaaf21d827cf96f92@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812120226t6c2d8b7fwaaf21d827cf96f92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1229079981.2939.16.camel@leitz> On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 05:26 -0500, Bob Evans wrote: > Hi gang, > I personally think CharLUG has enough speakers to fill out the rest of > 2009 from within our ranks. Think about it. Let us all know if you are > interested in speaking during an '09 meeting. Morning Bob et al... If I stay in the area and if anyone is interested I'm still working on ways to help Linux nerds "go pro". If that's a desired topic, let me know. Leam From bobevans19 at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 11:57:53 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Fri Dec 12 21:30:10 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Re: CharLUG - 2009 organizational meeting...01/03/09...Mtg time: 10AM-12 Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812130857w2054f348k1a5b557a015aa425@mail.gmail.com> Who can update the website? On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:26 AM, Bob Evans wrote: > Hi gang, > > Just a brief update. > > Spoke with the owners of the Coffee Garden, and they will provide a > reserved table or two. (long tables) There is Wifi. Weather permitting we > can even set up outside.. Pizza next door. Subs & beer nearby. Chinese, > MacDonalds,& Lebanese food also.... > > *Speaker roster* If we go with monthly meetings, we need 11 speakers for > '09. I have sent requests out to Richard Hipp (SQLite) and > Kevin Jones(FLPC). Kevin's replied back & said he is available to speak. > > I personally think CharLUG has enough speakers to fill out the rest of 20= 09 > from within our ranks. Think about it. Let us all know if you are interes= ted > in speaking during an '09 meeting. > > *Meeting location(s)* I propose holding the meetings in different > locations each time we meet. Tying ourselves to one location immediately > reduces the number of attendees. Things like bus routes, time of day, and > ride sharing should be discussed on 01/03. > > I tell my customers that GNU/Linux, and for that matter, Open Software in > general, has moved beyond the "experts only" stage. We ought to be as > dynamic as the software we use. Let's get some good meetings going in > 2009... > > Hope to see everyone at the01/03/09 meeting.. > > > > -- > Thanks, > > Bob Evans > > carolinux.blogspot.com > -- = Thanks, Bob Evans http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/b27d/zoom/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081213/98da0934/att= achment.htm From phma at phma.optus.nu Sat Dec 13 15:13:04 2008 From: phma at phma.optus.nu (Pierre Abbat) Date: Sat Dec 13 00:45:25 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Re: CharLUG - 2009 organizational =?iso-8859-15?q?=09meeting=2E=2E=2E01/03/09=2E=2E=2EMtg_time=3A?= 10AM-12 In-Reply-To: <7c5cd1190812130857w2054f348k1a5b557a015aa425@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812130857w2054f348k1a5b557a015aa425@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812131513.05510.phma@phma.optus.nu> On Saturday 13 December 2008 11:57:53 Bob Evans wrote: > Who can update the website? I can, if I remember how to log in. Pierre From bobevans19 at gmail.com Sun Dec 14 09:54:01 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Sat Dec 13 19:26:15 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Re: CharLUG - 2009 organizational meeting...01/03/09...Mtg time: 10AM-12 In-Reply-To: <200812131513.05510.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <7c5cd1190812130857w2054f348k1a5b557a015aa425@mail.gmail.com> <200812131513.05510.phma@phma.optus.nu> Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812140654o4c92c013ha0f02c2bf385df23@mail.gmail.com> Pierre If you can update the website regarding the 01/03/09 meeting, that would be swell... -bob On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Saturday 13 December 2008 11:57:53 Bob Evans wrote: > > Who can update the website? > > I can, if I remember how to log in. > > Pierre > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > -- = Thanks, Bob Evans http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/b27d/zoom/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: I note with dismay that the process of changing the one's list email address seems to be broken. The new email address confirmation process does not appear to take place as I have yet to receive the confirmation email. My Hughes email account will vanish at any moment and the Gmail account (with same user ID) is yet to be validated. Anyone know what's happening? Alex Rutchka. From phma at phma.optus.nu Sun Dec 14 11:07:01 2008 From: phma at phma.optus.nu (Pierre Abbat) Date: Sat Dec 13 20:39:17 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Changing one's list email address. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200812141107.01580.phma@phma.optus.nu> On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:28:18 Alex Rutchka wrote: > I note with dismay that the process of changing the one's list email > address seems to be broken. The new email address confirmation > process does not appear to take place as I have yet to receive the > confirmation email. My Hughes email account will vanish at any moment > and the Gmail account (with same user ID) is yet to be validated. > > Anyone know what's happening? Did you try via the web form or by sending an email to charlug-request@charlug.org? Pierre From rick at niof.net Sun Dec 14 11:12:20 2008 From: rick at niof.net (Rick Pasotto) Date: Sat Dec 13 20:44:33 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Changing one's list email address. In-Reply-To: <200812141107.01580.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <200812141107.01580.phma@phma.optus.nu> Message-ID: <20081214161220.GI5641@niof.net> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 11:07:01AM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 14 December 2008 10:28:18 Alex Rutchka wrote: > > I note with dismay that the process of changing the one's list email > > address seems to be broken. The new email address confirmation > > process does not appear to take place as I have yet to receive the > > confirmation email. My Hughes email account will vanish at any moment > > and the Gmail account (with same user ID) is yet to be validated. > > > > Anyone know what's happening? > > Did you try via the web form or by sending an email to > charlug-request@charlug.org? charlug-request is a general purpose address. It can be used for getting help, listing members, subscribing/unsubscribing. charlug-subscribe and charlug-join ought to work (if mailman is setup properly) without specific subject or body text. -- "Fall seven times. Stand up eight." -- Japanese Proverb Rick Pasotto rick@niof.net http://www.niof.net From parrisdc at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 06:28:22 2008 From: parrisdc at gmail.com (Don Parris) Date: Sun Dec 14 16:00:31 2008 Subject: [Charlug] CharLUG - 2009 organizational meeting...01/03/09 In-Reply-To: <7c5cd1190812120226t6c2d8b7fwaaf21d827cf96f92@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812120226t6c2d8b7fwaaf21d827cf96f92@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1eba300b0812150328w3025c1a1nbd98358efb1df4a5@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:26 AM, Bob Evans wrote: > Hi gang, > > Just a brief update. > > Spoke with the owners of the Coffee Garden, and they will provide a > reserved table or two. (long tables) There is Wifi. Weather permitting we > can even set up outside.. Pizza next door. Subs & beer nearby. Chinese, > MacDonalds,& Lebanese food also.... > I'll try to make it - but will likely need a ride (see below). > > *Speaker roster* If we go with monthly meetings, we need 11 speakers for > '09. I have sent requests out to Richard Hipp (SQLite) and > Kevin Jones(FLPC). Kevin's replied back & said he is available to speak. > > I personally think CharLUG has enough speakers to fill out the rest of 20= 09 > from within our ranks. Think about it. Let us all know if you are interes= ted > in speaking during an '09 meeting. I really enjoy giving intros, overviews and otherwise helping newbies. > > > *Meeting location(s)* I propose holding the meetings in different > locations each time we meet. Tying ourselves to one location immediately > reduces the number of attendees. Things like bus routes, time of day, and > ride sharing should be discussed on 01/03. > Bus routes and ride sharing are hugely important. I'm now a full-time bicycle commuter - and live in South Park (in close proximity to my job). I am also an active member of the Regional Air Quality Board here in Charlotte, which means I'm working to some extent on environmental concerns here in Charlotte. So you really hit an important issue here, Bob. > > I tell my customers that GNU/Linux, and for that matter, Open Software in > general, has moved beyond the "experts only" stage. We ought to be as > dynamic as the software we use. Let's get some good meetings going in > 2009... > > Hope to see everyone at the01/03/09 meeting.. > > Regards, Don -- = D.C. Parris Minister, Journalist, Free Software Advocate https://www.xing.com/profile/Don_Parris http://www.linkedin.com/in/dcparris sip:dcparris@ekiga.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081215/a14ff050/att= achment.htm From bobevans19 at gmail.com Mon Dec 15 08:07:52 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Sun Dec 14 17:40:00 2008 Subject: [Charlug] CharLUG - 2009 organizational meeting...01/03/09 In-Reply-To: <1eba300b0812150328w3025c1a1nbd98358efb1df4a5@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812120226t6c2d8b7fwaaf21d827cf96f92@mail.gmail.com> <1eba300b0812150328w3025c1a1nbd98358efb1df4a5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812150507o57c2a52ey9e6a11c1ddfe89e1@mail.gmail.com> This meeting is 3 1/2 miles from the end of bus route 40X... Unfortunately 40X is weekdays only. I WILL PICK UP any bus riders if they can get to the end of Route 9 LOCAL... That would be either the Park & Ride on Albemarle & Lawyers, or the WalMart on Albemarle Road. I would prefer the Park & Ride... My phone number is 704 628-6800... -Bob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Don Parris wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 5:26 AM, Bob Evans wrote: > >> Hi gang, >> >> Just a brief update. >> >> Spoke with the owners of the Coffee Garden, and they will provide a >> reserved table or two. (long tables) There is Wifi. Weather permitting we >> can even set up outside.. Pizza next door. Subs & beer nearby. Chinese, >> MacDonalds,& Lebanese food also.... >> > > I'll try to make it - but will likely need a ride (see below). > > >> >> *Speaker roster* If we go with monthly meetings, we need 11 speakers for >> '09. I have sent requests out to Richard Hipp (SQLite) and >> Kevin Jones(FLPC). Kevin's replied back & said he is available to speak. >> >> I personally think CharLUG has enough speakers to fill out the rest of >> 2009 from within our ranks. Think about it. Let us all know if you are >> interested in speaking during an '09 meeting. > > > I really enjoy giving intros, overviews and otherwise helping newbies. > >> >> >> *Meeting location(s)* I propose holding the meetings in different >> locations each time we meet. Tying ourselves to one location immediately >> reduces the number of attendees. Things like bus routes, time of day, and >> ride sharing should be discussed on 01/03. >> > > Bus routes and ride sharing are hugely important. I'm now a full-time > bicycle commuter - and live in South Park (in close proximity to my job).= I > am also an active member of the Regional Air Quality Board here in > Charlotte, which means I'm working to some extent on environmental concer= ns > here in Charlotte. So you really hit an important issue here, Bob. > > >> >> I tell my customers that GNU/Linux, and for that matter, Open Software in >> general, has moved beyond the "experts only" stage. We ought to be as >> dynamic as the software we use. Let's get some good meetings going in >> 2009... >> > >> Hope to see everyone at the01/03/09 meeting.. >> >> > > Regards, > Don > -- > D.C. Parris > Minister, Journalist, Free Software Advocate > https://www.xing.com/profile/Don_Parris > http://www.linkedin.com/in/dcparris > sip:dcparris@ekiga.net > > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > -- = Thanks, Bob Evans It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues. - Abraham Lincoln -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081215/771c96fa/att= achment.htm From leam at reuel.net Wed Dec 17 11:41:24 2008 From: leam at reuel.net (Leam Hall) Date: Tue Dec 16 21:14:50 2008 Subject: [Charlug] BarCamp Charlotte Message-ID: <1229532084.5567.1.camel@leitz> Anyone else going? Just foound out. Looks...interesting... http://barcampcharlotte.com/ Leam From bobevans19 at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 03:50:50 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Wed Dec 17 13:22:42 2008 Subject: [Charlug] BarCamp Charlotte In-Reply-To: <1229532084.5567.1.camel@leitz> References: <1229532084.5567.1.camel@leitz> Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812180050s5dd0f28fkb58b3fab578bd3a9@mail.gmail.com> Definitely. I think someone posted this to the list last month, but thanks for the reminder... Should we advertise it on the front page of http://charlug.org? Who has web page update access for the LUG site? On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Leam Hall wrote: > Anyone else going? Just foound out. Looks...interesting... > > http://barcampcharlotte.com/ > > Leam > > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > -- = Thanks, Bob Evans Anxiety is the dizziness of freedom. - Soren Kierkegaard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081218/e989c511/att= achment.htm From timjowers at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 09:23:48 2008 From: timjowers at gmail.com (Tim Jowers) Date: Wed Dec 17 18:55:40 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Quad head? Message-ID: Someone asked me if Linux can do Quad head. Anyone here know? I've never even done dual head yet myself. Easy? Hard? From leam at reuel.net Thu Dec 18 09:52:27 2008 From: leam at reuel.net (Leam Hall) Date: Wed Dec 17 19:25:46 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Quad head? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1229611947.2947.9.camel@leitz> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72124&highlight=fedora +quad+head Loooks like it's possible. Leam On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 09:23 -0500, Tim Jowers wrote: > Someone asked me if Linux can do Quad head. Anyone here know? I've > never even done dual head yet myself. Easy? Hard? > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug From timjowers at gmail.com Thu Dec 18 11:01:01 2008 From: timjowers at gmail.com (Tim Jowers) Date: Wed Dec 17 20:32:51 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Quad head? In-Reply-To: <1229611947.2947.9.camel@leitz> References: <1229611947.2947.9.camel@leitz> Message-ID: Thanks Everyone! TimJowers On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Leam Hall wrote: > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=72124&highlight=fedora > +quad+head > > Loooks like it's possible. > > Leam > > On Thu, 2008-12-18 at 09:23 -0500, Tim Jowers wrote: >> Someone asked me if Linux can do Quad head. Anyone here know? I've >> never even done dual head yet myself. Easy? Hard? >> _______________________________________________ >> CharLUG mailing list >> CharLUG@charlug.org >> http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > From peter.senft at hpss.de Thu Dec 18 11:39:58 2008 From: peter.senft at hpss.de (Peter Senft) Date: Wed Dec 17 21:11:45 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Quad head? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <494A7CDE.6040307@hpss.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi Tim Jowers wrote: > Someone asked me if Linux can do Quad head. Anyone here know? I've > never even done dual head yet myself. Easy? Hard? X can do multiple heads. Depends a little bit on what you want to do (clone, extend...). And depending on the graphics adapters you use it's easy or hard :) Peter - -- | Peter Senft /"\ | E-Mail : peter.senft@hpss.de \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | FIDO : 2:2476/847.34 X against HTML mail | ICQ : 62090394 / \ | Powered by Debian Linux | #185651 http://counter.li.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJSnze8C47DFW4ANMRAhBNAJsFGdlqhX4JdmaxzN1B1qxSMYu/yACfUmsB qPZV2U2xBTbTz36aD/HUZGQ= =/Cbu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hcmoore1 at bellsouth.net Sat Dec 20 21:48:26 2008 From: hcmoore1 at bellsouth.net (hcmoore1@bellsouth.net) Date: Sat Dec 20 07:20:04 2008 Subject: [Charlug] (no subject) Message-ID: <122120080248.7777.494DAE7A0005D70900001E6122230703629B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBFCE0A9D0101030C08@att.net> I am using Ubuntu 7.04 and am trying to use Serpentine to burn CDs. I can get .ogg music files using Sound Juicer but when I try to transfer these files to CDs, it seems to do so,but then I get a message such as " disk not recognized" or "disk may be unusable". I can burn CDs using the same CD-RW on Win 98SE so the drive works. I tried to download "Audacity" to convert .ogg to WAV files, figuring that this may solve my problem, but some of the necessary components are not on the server. Any help would be appreciated. -------------- next part -------------- Skipped content of type multipart/related From bobevans19 at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 14:53:57 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Sun Dec 21 00:25:32 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Access to update web page... Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> Can I get access to update the CharLUG web pages? TIA -- = Thanks, Bob Evans It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them. - P. G. Wodehouse When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that it is his duty. - George Bernard Shaw -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081221/f674525c/att= achment.htm From phma at phma.optus.nu Sun Dec 21 15:48:09 2008 From: phma at phma.optus.nu (Pierre Abbat) Date: Sun Dec 21 01:19:45 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Access to update web page... In-Reply-To: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:53:57 Bob Evans wrote: > Can I get access to update the CharLUG web pages? I can update the calendar, but I don't know how to get into the admin pages. I'm going to ask Joe Josey. Pierre From bobevans19 at gmail.com Sun Dec 21 15:51:00 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Sun Dec 21 01:22:33 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Access to update web page... In-Reply-To: <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> I'd like to take the "going out of business" stuff off the home page, if at all possible.................... On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:53:57 Bob Evans wrote: > > Can I get access to update the CharLUG web pages? > > I can update the calendar, but I don't know how to get into the admin > pages. > I'm going to ask Joe Josey. > > Pierre > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > -- = Thanks, Bob Evans It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them. - P. G. Wodehouse When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always declares that it is his duty. - George Bernard Shaw -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081221/0ae943d7/att= achment.htm From KSISSON at carolina.rr.com Mon Dec 22 11:09:24 2008 From: KSISSON at carolina.rr.com (Kevin) Date: Sun Dec 21 20:39:04 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Question about cable modem and dhcp In-Reply-To: <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <494FBBB4.4040707@carolina.rr.com> Hi all, Several months ago I signed up for TW RoadRunner broadband cable service. The service is pretty good (moved from dial-up), but I have noticed something that seems to be happening a little more frequently lately. I apparently loose the connection to the Internet, at apparently random intervals. I will notice that a site is not responding, or that a new site can't be found. When I check 'route' it hangs, instead of giving me back the normal listing with 'default' being the cable modem. Since I'm new to using dhcp, I don't know if the problem is on my end or RR's end. The cable modem is an Ambit model (suppled by TW). I'm using a USB 2.0 interface. I also have a small local ethernet system- standard Linksys card to hub (usually only the computer with the cable modem is running so the hub is not active). udev finds the cable modem when I boot up, assigns it to eth1, and 'dhcpcd -d -t 30 eth1' is run by the inet script. I wrote a bash script that will bring the modem interface up and down (for extra security, when I finish running a browser, the script brings the interface down, and back up when I start the browser). The script just does 'ifconfig eth1 down' or 'ifconfig eth1 up' and restarts inet1. Both times 'route' is executed to make sure the commands have gone through. When I lose the Internet connection, I run the script from a terminal window to reset everything. I'm not getting any error messages from the usb interface. My problem/question is that I don't know exactly what is happening. I can go for days with losing the Internet (I'm on a total of several hours a day), or this can happen once or several times a day. I tried lengthening the dhcpcd timeout to 45 seconds, but so far that does not seem to have had any effect. Has anybody seem a similar problem, or can anybody point me in a direction to try to find the cause? The dhcp log doesn't tell me much. Thanks, Kevin From jared at jaredwatkins.com Mon Dec 22 11:12:21 2008 From: jared at jaredwatkins.com (Jared Watkins) Date: Sun Dec 21 20:44:07 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Question about cable modem and dhcp In-Reply-To: <494FBBB4.4040707@carolina.rr.com> Message-ID: It sounds like you are trying to use both the usb and the network port from the cable modem at the same time? That's a no no... =] Pick one.. I'd suggest the network port and put a firewall in front of it to maintain a steady connection or use your linux box as the firewall/router. J On 12/22/08 11:09 AM, "Kevin" wrote: > Hi all, > > Several months ago I signed up for TW RoadRunner broadband cable > service. The service is pretty good (moved from dial-up), but I have > noticed something that seems to be happening a little more frequently > lately. I apparently loose the connection to the Internet, at apparently > random intervals. I will notice that a site is not responding, or that a > new site can't be found. When I check 'route' it hangs, instead of > giving me back the normal listing with 'default' being the cable modem. > Since I'm new to using dhcp, I don't know if the problem is on my end or > RR's end. > > The cable modem is an Ambit model (suppled by TW). I'm using a USB 2.0 > interface. I also have a small local ethernet system- standard Linksys > card to hub (usually only the computer with the cable modem is running > so the hub is not active). udev finds the cable modem when I boot up, > assigns it to eth1, and 'dhcpcd -d -t 30 eth1' is run by the inet > script. I wrote a bash script that will bring the modem interface up and > down (for extra security, when I finish running a browser, the script > brings the interface down, and back up when I start the browser). The > script just does 'ifconfig eth1 down' or 'ifconfig eth1 up' and restarts > inet1. Both times 'route' is executed to make sure the commands have > gone through. When I lose the Internet connection, I run the script from > a terminal window to reset everything. I'm not getting any error > messages from the usb interface. > > My problem/question is that I don't know exactly what is happening. I > can go for days with losing the Internet (I'm on a total of several > hours a day), or this can happen once or several times a day. I tried > lengthening the dhcpcd timeout to 45 seconds, but so far that does not > seem to have had any effect. Has anybody seem a similar problem, or can > anybody point me in a direction to try to find the cause? The dhcp log > doesn't tell me much. Thanks, > > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug From KSISSON at carolina.rr.com Mon Dec 22 11:22:32 2008 From: KSISSON at carolina.rr.com (Kevin) Date: Sun Dec 21 20:52:10 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Question about cable modem and dhcp In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <494FBEC8.1000803@carolina.rr.com> Jared Watkins wrote: > It sounds like you are trying to use both the usb and the network port from > the cable modem at the same time? That's a no no... =] Pick one.. I'd > suggest the network port and put a firewall in front of it to maintain a > steady connection or use your linux box as the firewall/router. > > J > > > > Nope, sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant to say that I have a network cable in the computer, but that it is being used for the network, not the cable modem. The only connection between the modem and the computer is through the usb cable. The RJ- connector on the modem is not being used. I'm using an iptables script as my firewall. Plus, the connection isbeing lost while I'm on the internet; shouldn't that be maintaining the connection? > On 12/22/08 11:09 AM, "Kevin" wrote: > > >> Hi all, >> >> Several months ago I signed up for TW RoadRunner broadband cable >> service. The service is pretty good (moved from dial-up), but I have >> noticed something that seems to be happening a little more frequently >> lately. I apparently loose the connection to the Internet, at apparently >> random intervals. I will notice that a site is not responding, or that a >> new site can't be found. When I check 'route' it hangs, instead of >> giving me back the normal listing with 'default' being the cable modem. >> Since I'm new to using dhcp, I don't know if the problem is on my end or >> RR's end. >> >> The cable modem is an Ambit model (suppled by TW). I'm using a USB 2.0 >> interface. I also have a small local ethernet system- standard Linksys >> card to hub (usually only the computer with the cable modem is running >> so the hub is not active). udev finds the cable modem when I boot up, >> assigns it to eth1, and 'dhcpcd -d -t 30 eth1' is run by the inet >> script. I wrote a bash script that will bring the modem interface up and >> down (for extra security, when I finish running a browser, the script >> brings the interface down, and back up when I start the browser). The >> script just does 'ifconfig eth1 down' or 'ifconfig eth1 up' and restarts >> inet1. Both times 'route' is executed to make sure the commands have >> gone through. When I lose the Internet connection, I run the script from >> a terminal window to reset everything. I'm not getting any error >> messages from the usb interface. >> >> My problem/question is that I don't know exactly what is happening. I >> can go for days with losing the Internet (I'm on a total of several >> hours a day), or this can happen once or several times a day. I tried >> lengthening the dhcpcd timeout to 45 seconds, but so far that does not >> seem to have had any effect. Has anybody seem a similar problem, or can >> anybody point me in a direction to try to find the cause? The dhcp log >> doesn't tell me much. Thanks, >> >> Kevin >> _______________________________________________ >> CharLUG mailing list >> CharLUG@charlug.org >> http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug >> > > > > From peter.senft at hpss.de Mon Dec 22 14:49:44 2008 From: peter.senft at hpss.de (Peter Senft) Date: Mon Dec 22 00:21:22 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Question about cable modem and dhcp In-Reply-To: <494FBBB4.4040707@carolina.rr.com> References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> <494FBBB4.4040707@carolina.rr.com> Message-ID: <494FEF58.1090103@hpss.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Kevin, I have the same issue with TW RoadRunner. I encountered it in two different apartments with different types of modems. It seems that TW has a very flaky connection and they don't care. Tech support can't help (as expected) and nobody knows what's going on. I found different types of disconnect for my modem, which is connected via RJ45 to my server: - - The modem is not reachable anymore (even the modem doesn't like TW) - - The DHCP server of TW is not reachable anymore - - The "internet" is not reachable anymore I wrote a small bash script and start it every minute with cron. It is simply checking for these three cases. If the connection goes down the script restarts the network and the firewall and also informs me by mail. I have a pretty good trail now how often TW goes down. And you're right, it seems random. Although I had some days were I could not get a connection for hours :(. My conclusion out of this: TW sucks... Is there any reliable provider in this country? cu hps - -- | Peter Senft /"\ | E-Mail : peter.senft@hpss.de \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | FIDO : 2:2476/847.34 X against HTML mail | ICQ : 62090394 / \ | Powered by Debian Linux | #185651 http://counter.li.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJT+9Y8C47DFW4ANMRAvb7AKDQobG6+27UXlEziapEDfV7Q0K4agCeP/J1 QZLdwFbWTpBsfD+VDtfPTT8= =23yJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From jared at jaredwatkins.com Mon Dec 22 14:59:35 2008 From: jared at jaredwatkins.com (Jared Watkins) Date: Mon Dec 22 00:31:25 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Question about cable modem and dhcp In-Reply-To: <494FBEC8.1000803@carolina.rr.com> Message-ID: Right.. well in that case it sounds like you might have a funky connection to the cableco. Next time it happens see if your cable modem is in the process of reconnecting to the network on that side. If so.. I'd have someone out to check your cabling.. signal levels etc... maybe they can find something. Since this is your first time using a cable modem it's possible the physical connection isn't up to spec. It could also be that their network sucks... can never rule that out completely. I've noticed issues with mine just in the last week or so.. and it had been stable for months prior. J On 12/22/08 11:22 AM, "Kevin" wrote: > Jared Watkins wrote: >> It sounds like you are trying to use both the usb and the network port from >> the cable modem at the same time? That's a no no... =] Pick one.. I'd >> suggest the network port and put a firewall in front of it to maintain a >> steady connection or use your linux box as the firewall/router. > > Nope, sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant to say that I have a > network cable in the computer, but that it is being used for the > network, not the cable modem. The only connection between the modem and > the computer is through the usb cable. The RJ- connector on the modem is > not being used. I'm using an iptables script as my firewall. Plus, the > connection isbeing lost while I'm on the internet; shouldn't that be > maintaining the connection? > > > >> On 12/22/08 11:09 AM, "Kevin" wrote: >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Several months ago I signed up for TW RoadRunner broadband cable >>> service. The service is pretty good (moved from dial-up), but I have >>> noticed something that seems to be happening a little more frequently >>> lately. I apparently loose the connection to the Internet, at apparently >>> random intervals. I will notice that a site is not responding, or that a >>> new site can't be found. When I check 'route' it hangs, instead of >>> giving me back the normal listing with 'default' being the cable modem. >>> Since I'm new to using dhcp, I don't know if the problem is on my end or >>> RR's end. >>> >>> The cable modem is an Ambit model (suppled by TW). I'm using a USB 2.0 >>> interface. I also have a small local ethernet system- standard Linksys >>> card to hub (usually only the computer with the cable modem is running >>> so the hub is not active). udev finds the cable modem when I boot up, >>> assigns it to eth1, and 'dhcpcd -d -t 30 eth1' is run by the inet >>> script. I wrote a bash script that will bring the modem interface up and >>> down (for extra security, when I finish running a browser, the script >>> brings the interface down, and back up when I start the browser). The >>> script just does 'ifconfig eth1 down' or 'ifconfig eth1 up' and restarts >>> inet1. Both times 'route' is executed to make sure the commands have >>> gone through. When I lose the Internet connection, I run the script from >>> a terminal window to reset everything. I'm not getting any error >>> messages from the usb interface. >>> >>> My problem/question is that I don't know exactly what is happening. I >>> can go for days with losing the Internet (I'm on a total of several >>> hours a day), or this can happen once or several times a day. I tried >>> lengthening the dhcpcd timeout to 45 seconds, but so far that does not >>> seem to have had any effect. Has anybody seem a similar problem, or can >>> anybody point me in a direction to try to find the cause? The dhcp log >>> doesn't tell me much. Thanks, From cmpilato at red-bean.com Mon Dec 22 15:30:39 2008 From: cmpilato at red-bean.com (C. Michael Pilato) Date: Mon Dec 22 01:02:07 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Question about cable modem and dhcp In-Reply-To: <494FEF58.1090103@hpss.de> References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> <494FBBB4.4040707@carolina.rr.com> <494FEF58.1090103@hpss.de> Message-ID: <494FF8EF.7060406@red-bean.com> I used to have a really flaky TW connection, too. I reported this to TW, and they sent out a tech. He took one look at my modem and said, "That's an old modem -- here's a new one." (I'd only had the "old modem" a few months.) Since then, my connection has been pretty darned reliable. Peter Senft wrote: > Kevin, > > I have the same issue with TW RoadRunner. I encountered it in two > different apartments with different types of modems. It seems that TW > has a very flaky connection and they don't care. Tech support can't help > (as expected) and nobody knows what's going on. I found different types > of disconnect for my modem, which is connected via RJ45 to my server: > - The modem is not reachable anymore (even the modem doesn't like TW) > - The DHCP server of TW is not reachable anymore > - The "internet" is not reachable anymore > > I wrote a small bash script and start it every minute with cron. It is > simply checking for these three cases. If the connection goes down the > script restarts the network and the firewall and also informs me by > mail. I have a pretty good trail now how often TW goes down. And you're > right, it seems random. Although I had some days were I could not get a > connection for hours :(. My conclusion out of this: TW sucks... Is there > any reliable provider in this country? > > cu hps > _______________________________________________ CharLUG mailing list CharLUG@charlug.org http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug -- C. Michael Pilato | http://cmpilato.blogspot.com/ From KSISSON at carolina.rr.com Mon Dec 22 17:21:25 2008 From: KSISSON at carolina.rr.com (Kevin) Date: Mon Dec 22 02:51:02 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Question about cable modem and dhcp In-Reply-To: <494FF8EF.7060406@red-bean.com> References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> <494FBBB4.4040707@carolina.rr.com> <494FEF58.1090103@hpss.de> <494FF8EF.7060406@red-bean.com> Message-ID: <495012E5.9090407@carolina.rr.com> Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I think I will try a script that checks to see when this happens and then resets the interface. I will try to get it to log the times so maybe I can see a pattern. I do know that the MAC address of the actual modem ( as reported by linux) is slightly different from what is on the literature the TW tech gave me. There is no name or other info on the modem as to the manufacturer either (Windows didn't have a clue; I used linux to get the info). I probably have an 'old' modem too. Kevin C. Michael Pilato wrote: > I used to have a really flaky TW connection, too. I reported this to TW, > and they sent out a tech. He took one look at my modem and said, "That's an > old modem -- here's a new one." (I'd only had the "old modem" a few > months.) Since then, my connection has been pretty darned reliable. > > Peter Senft wrote: > >> Kevin, >> >> I have the same issue with TW RoadRunner. I encountered it in two >> different apartments with different types of modems. It seems that TW >> has a very flaky connection and they don't care. Tech support can't help >> (as expected) and nobody knows what's going on. I found different types >> of disconnect for my modem, which is connected via RJ45 to my server: >> - The modem is not reachable anymore (even the modem doesn't like TW) >> - The DHCP server of TW is not reachable anymore >> - The "internet" is not reachable anymore >> >> I wrote a small bash script and start it every minute with cron. It is >> simply checking for these three cases. If the connection goes down the >> script restarts the network and the firewall and also informs me by >> mail. I have a pretty good trail now how often TW goes down. And you're >> right, it seems random. Although I had some days were I could not get a >> connection for hours :(. My conclusion out of this: TW sucks... Is there >> any reliable provider in this country? >> >> cu hps >> >> > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > From leam at reuel.net Tue Dec 23 16:02:13 2008 From: leam at reuel.net (Leam Hall) Date: Tue Dec 23 01:35:13 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Access to update web page... In-Reply-To: <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1230066133.5849.21.camel@leitz> I'd suggest dumping the Mambo stuff and going to a static site until things get ironed out. Looks like Sean owns the domain and it expires March. Might want to plan a revamp and renewal at the same time. :) Leam On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 15:51 -0500, Bob Evans wrote: > I'd like to take the "going out of business" stuff off the home page, > if at all possible.................... > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Pierre Abbat > wrote: > On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:53:57 Bob Evans wrote: > > Can I get access to update the CharLUG web pages? > > > I can update the calendar, but I don't know how to get into > the admin pages. > I'm going to ask Joe Josey. > > Pierre > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > > > -- > Thanks, > > Bob Evans > > It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people > do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of > them. > - P. G. Wodehouse > > When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always > declares that it is his duty. > - George Bernard Shaw > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug From nkr1ptd at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 16:07:44 2008 From: nkr1ptd at gmail.com (nkr1ptd) Date: Tue Dec 23 01:39:06 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Access to update web page... In-Reply-To: <1230066133.5849.21.camel@leitz> References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> <1230066133.5849.21.camel@leitz> Message-ID: Do we know where it is hosted at? On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Leam Hall wrote: > I'd suggest dumping the Mambo stuff and going to a static site until > things get ironed out. Looks like Sean owns the domain and it expires > March. Might want to plan a revamp and renewal at the same time. :) > > Leam > > On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 15:51 -0500, Bob Evans wrote: > > I'd like to take the "going out of business" stuff off the home page, > > if at all possible.................... > > > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Pierre Abbat > > wrote: > > On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:53:57 Bob Evans wrote: > > > Can I get access to update the CharLUG web pages? > > > > > > I can update the calendar, but I don't know how to get into > > the admin pages. > > I'm going to ask Joe Josey. > > > > Pierre > > _______________________________________________ > > CharLUG mailing list > > CharLUG@charlug.org > > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > > > Bob Evans > > > > It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people > > do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of > > them. > > - P. G. Wodehouse > > > > When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he always > > declares that it is his duty. > > - George Bernard Shaw > > _______________________________________________ > > CharLUG mailing list > > CharLUG@charlug.org > > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > -- = ------------------------- People have a tendency to do the things they hate the most, but somehow the only time they never see it is when they are looking in the mirror. - Brandon L Newport -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081223/6049d548/att= achment.htm From leam at reuel.net Tue Dec 23 16:41:41 2008 From: leam at reuel.net (Leam Hall) Date: Tue Dec 23 02:14:42 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Access to update web page... In-Reply-To: References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> <1230066133.5849.21.camel@leitz> Message-ID: <1230068501.5849.22.camel@leitz> Sean used to have his own hosting company. Might still, dunno. Leam On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 16:07 -0500, nkr1ptd wrote: > Do we know where it is hosted at? > > > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Leam Hall wrote: > I'd suggest dumping the Mambo stuff and going to a static site > until > things get ironed out. Looks like Sean owns the domain and it > expires > March. Might want to plan a revamp and renewal at the same > time. :) > > Leam > > > On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 15:51 -0500, Bob Evans wrote: > > I'd like to take the "going out of business" stuff off the > home page, > > if at all possible.................... > > > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Pierre Abbat > > > wrote: > > On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:53:57 Bob Evans wrote: > > > Can I get access to update the CharLUG web pages? > > > > > > I can update the calendar, but I don't know how to > get into > > the admin pages. > > I'm going to ask Joe Josey. > > > > Pierre > > _______________________________________________ > > CharLUG mailing list > > CharLUG@charlug.org > > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > > > > > > > -- > > Thanks, > > > > Bob Evans > > > > It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort > of people > > do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean > advantage of > > them. > > - P. G. Wodehouse > > > > When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he > always > > declares that it is his duty. > > - George Bernard Shaw > > _______________________________________________ > > CharLUG mailing list > > CharLUG@charlug.org > > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > > > > -- > ------------------------- > People have a tendency to do the things they hate the most, but > somehow the only time they never see it is when they are looking in > the mirror. - Brandon L Newport From nkr1ptd at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 16:46:43 2008 From: nkr1ptd at gmail.com (nkr1ptd) Date: Tue Dec 23 02:18:05 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Access to update web page... In-Reply-To: <1230068501.5849.22.camel@leitz> References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> <1230066133.5849.21.camel@leitz> <1230068501.5849.22.camel@leitz> Message-ID: I will give Sean a call. I know he is on vacation, but I will see what he can do for the group. -brandon On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Leam Hall wrote: > Sean used to have his own hosting company. Might still, dunno. > > Leam > > On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 16:07 -0500, nkr1ptd wrote: > > Do we know where it is hosted at? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Leam Hall wrote: > > I'd suggest dumping the Mambo stuff and going to a static site > > until > > things get ironed out. Looks like Sean owns the domain and it > > expires > > March. Might want to plan a revamp and renewal at the same > > time. :) > > > > Leam > > > > > > On Sun, 2008-12-21 at 15:51 -0500, Bob Evans wrote: > > > I'd like to take the "going out of business" stuff off the > > home page, > > > if at all possible.................... > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Pierre Abbat > > > > > wrote: > > > On Sunday 21 December 2008 14:53:57 Bob Evans wrote: > > > > Can I get access to update the CharLUG web pages? > > > > > > > > > I can update the calendar, but I don't know how to > > get into > > > the admin pages. > > > I'm going to ask Joe Josey. > > > > > > Pierre > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CharLUG mailing list > > > CharLUG@charlug.org > > > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Bob Evans > > > > > > It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort > > of people > > > do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean > > advantage of > > > them. > > > - P. G. Wodehouse > > > > > > When a stupid man is doing something he is ashamed of, he > > always > > > declares that it is his duty. > > > - George Bernard Shaw > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CharLUG mailing list > > > CharLUG@charlug.org > > > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CharLUG mailing list > > CharLUG@charlug.org > > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ------------------------- > > People have a tendency to do the things they hate the most, but > > somehow the only time they never see it is when they are looking in > > the mirror. - Brandon L Newport > > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > -- = ------------------------- People have a tendency to do the things they hate the most, but somehow the only time they never see it is when they are looking in the mirror. - Brandon L Newport -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081223/82840f5a/att= achment.htm From phma at phma.optus.nu Tue Dec 23 18:12:30 2008 From: phma at phma.optus.nu (Pierre Abbat) Date: Tue Dec 23 03:43:59 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Access to update web page... In-Reply-To: References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <1230068501.5849.22.camel@leitz> Message-ID: <200812231812.32169.phma@phma.optus.nu> On Tuesday 23 December 2008 16:46:43 nkr1ptd wrote: > I will give Sean a call. I know he is on vacation, but I will see what he > can do for the group. I got access to the admin page, but I don't know Mambo. If someone here knows Mambo, we'll figure it out. Pierre From nkr1ptd at gmail.com Tue Dec 23 20:33:26 2008 From: nkr1ptd at gmail.com (nkr1ptd) Date: Tue Dec 23 06:04:47 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Access to update web page... In-Reply-To: <200812231812.32169.phma@phma.optus.nu> References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <1230068501.5849.22.camel@leitz> <200812231812.32169.phma@phma.optus.nu> Message-ID: Would recommend we upgrade to Joomla (gpl fork of mambo). I know both. If someone can give me username and password I can make mods. Brandon On 12/23/08, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday 23 December 2008 16:46:43 nkr1ptd wrote: >> I will give Sean a call. I know he is on vacation, but I will see what he >> can do for the group. > > I got access to the admin page, but I don't know Mambo. If someone here > knows > Mambo, we'll figure it out. > > Pierre > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > -- Sent from my mobile device ------------------------- People have a tendency to do the things they hate the most, but somehow the only time they never see it is when they are looking in the mirror. - Brandon L Newport From bobevans19 at gmail.com Sun Dec 28 09:29:01 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Sat Dec 27 18:59:59 2008 Subject: [Charlug] Access to update web page... In-Reply-To: <7c5cd1190812270228n3eb76266o25357c65bca11a11@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812211153j19d813abj2fa43708c735d288@mail.gmail.com> <200812211548.09588.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7c5cd1190812211251h2a3cd062o30f4a4703185fbd0@mail.gmail.com> <200812231815.44759.phma@phma.optus.nu> <7c5cd1190812270228n3eb76266o25357c65bca11a11@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812280629x20ad75e8n9988e6a00f3e250e@mail.gmail.com> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Bob Evans wrote: > OK, I see it. What is my user id/ password for admin stuff? > > > > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:15 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> On Sunday 21 December 2008 15:51:00 you wrote: >> > I'd like to take the "going out of business" stuff off the home page, = if >> at >> > all possible.................... >> >> I got an answer from Joe. The admin page is at >> http://www.charlug.org/administrator/. I just made you an admin. >> >> We need to change the password for the user "admin" (Joe will still be >> able to >> get in, as he's still an admin). Can you suggest something? >> >> Pierre >> > > > > -- > Thanks, > > Bob Evans > > URL of the day..... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rings_of_Uranus > > > > macrobiotic \mak-roh-bahy-OT-ik\, adjective: > of or having to do with macrobiotics, a dietary system derived from Zen > Buddhism and purported to prolong life > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D > Like so many Americans, she was trying to construct a life that made sense > from things she found in gift shops. > - Kurt Vonnegut > > > -- = Thanks, Bob Evans There is no greater importance in all the world like knowing you are right and that the wave of the world is wrong, yet the wave crashes upon you. - Norman Mailer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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His more recent activities cent= er around SQLite. - - Wes Yates - -Others - LUG Lunch - LUG Library I am leaving open some time for introductions, etc... -- = ::: Thanks, Bob Evans ... I came from a real tough neighborhood. I put my hand in some cement and felt another hand. -Rodney Dangerfield -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081230/3c167b5e/att= achment.htm From bobevans19 at gmail.com Wed Dec 31 05:10:54 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Tue Dec 30 14:41:38 2008 Subject: [Charlug] 2009 organizational meeting - 01/03/09 In-Reply-To: <17D1388C08954BADB461A589607FE749@n7425d7c806e24> References: <7c5cd1190812301610u607e30f5rdaf108b97bb0aa31@mail.gmail.com> <17D1388C08954BADB461A589607FE749@n7425d7c806e24> Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812310210n51a9f044k957f10d54ed56ea2@mail.gmail.com> Sure. Sorry... The meeting is Saturday, January 3rd, 2009 At the Coffee Garden Stevens Mill Crossing 7900-L, Stevens Mill Road, Matthews, NC, 28104 I can pick up any CATS riders if they can take the Number 9 bus out Albemarle Road to the Wal Mart. Just call me @ 704 628 6800 or 704 989 6498 about 15 minutes before you need pick up... Thanks - and sorry for the vagueness, I carry most info in my head, and sometimes forget to type it out.. Bob Evans Carolinux.com --- Serving the Carolinas...with Linux. On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 4:54 AM, Bruce wrote: > Dear Bob, > > Can someone reiterate when/where we are meeting > > If we have to make a connection (get a ride) from the bus line???? > > --humbly, > > --Saltydog > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* charlug-bounces@charlug.org [mailto:charlug-bounces@charlug.org] = *On > Behalf Of *Bob Evans > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 30, 2008 7:11 PM > *To:* charlug@charlug.org > *Cc:* Wes Yates > *Subject:* [Charlug] 2009 organizational meeting - 01/03/09 > > > > I have confirmed with the owners at the Coffee Garden, so we are on for > Saturday morning, january 3rd, 2009. > > The meeting will last from 10 AM to ?? probably 1 PM?? > > Agenda ( please add anything else via return email...) > > - - Meetings - 2009 - Where - When > > > > - - Meeting speakers - 2009 > - - Kevin Jones - FLPC.org - Kevin has agreed to speak on his project. > Kevin is active in the UCLUG. > - - Dr. Richard Hipp - I have an email out to Richard. He has spoken > several times to CharLUG over the years. His more recent activities ce= nter > around SQLite. > - - Wes Yates > - -Others > > > > - LUG Lunch > - LUG Library > > I am leaving open some time for introductions, etc... > > > > > > > > -- > ::: > > Thanks, > > Bob Evans > ... > > I came from a real tough neighborhood. I put my hand in some cement and > felt another hand. > > -Rodney Dangerfield > -- = ::: Thanks, Bob Evans ... I came from a real tough neighborhood. I put my hand in some cement and felt another hand. -Rodney Dangerfield -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081231/b5909e62/att= achment.htm From bobevans19 at gmail.com Wed Dec 31 05:21:49 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Tue Dec 30 14:52:30 2008 Subject: [Charlug] 2009 speakers,,,Red Hat Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812310221t369de3fcyac30741073e7a620@mail.gmail.com> My bad! I forgot to mention that I lined up a Red Hat guy to speak. For those who remember "spot", he's out of state now, but got us hooked up with Greg Dekoenigsbergin Raleigh, so think about when we would want him here.... OBTW - "spot" is now in charge of Fedora Engineering for the Hat... ::: Thanks, Bob Evans ... I came from a real tough neighborhood. I put my hand in some cement and felt another hand. -Rodney Dangerfield -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://charlug.org/pipermail/charlug/attachments/20081231/2a491347/att= achment.htm From bobevans19 at gmail.com Sat Dec 13 19:22:45 2008 From: bobevans19 at gmail.com (Bob Evans) Date: Wed Apr 8 02:08:38 2009 Subject: [Charlug] Fwd: Charlug books 4 Alex... C++ and/or OS/X In-Reply-To: <7c5cd1190812140648r41f306efief455537ad04edb1@mail.gmail.com> References: <7c5cd1190812140648r41f306efief455537ad04edb1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7c5cd1190812140650u79db930cr17ea82c85cb697da@mail.gmail.com> Calling all cars......... If you can assist Alex, please reply off list........ Needs: C++ and / or Mac OS/X books......... tanks ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Bob Evans Date: Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:48 AM Subject: Charlug books 4 Alex... C++ and/or OS/X To: Alex Rutchka Cc: Sean Hogston , Leam Hall Alex Here's one that surfaced today... I'm copying Leam & Sean to assist in your search... Guys: C++ and / or Mac OS/X for Mr. Rutchka........... http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596004194/ On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Alex Rutchka wrote: > Bob, > I would be interested in any C++ or Mac OS books. If you have any, let me > know where and when. > > Alex Rutchka > > > On Nov 22, 2008, at 9:47 PM, Bob Evans wrote: > > All the books are from O'Reilly, from when we were getting "review copies" > of their new titles... > > "Review copies" are available to user groups (us) for free. The idea is > that you review the books, or even send in typos that you found. We did t= his > for a while until the trunk of my car filled up, and nobody was making use > of the books. Sean ended up with a bunch of them, and I think Liam also... > > Obviously they aren't all here. But if anything - I'm lazy. > > http://oreilly.com/store/publisher/oreillycomplete.html > > > > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Bob Evans wrote: > >> >> Been meaning to post this for a while... >> >> >> I have several boxes of computer books that (more or less) belong to >> CharLUG. >> >> If anyone wants any or all of them, let me know. >> >> I can post a list of titles if that would be of any help. >> >> Much as I hate to - if no one wants them - the books are on the way to t= he >> dump... >> >> >> -bob >> > > > > -- > > > -bob > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobevans19 > _______________________________________________ > CharLUG mailing list > CharLUG@charlug.org > http://charlug.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/charlug > > > -- = Thanks, Bob Evans http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/b27d/zoom/ -- = Thanks, Bob Evans http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/gear/b27d/zoom/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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